[JDEV] The Important Things

[James Barry]

After reading through the long thread, I thought I'd put a response in from
Jabber Inc.'s perspective.

I am new with Jabber Inc., having started a few weeks ago as their CTO.
Though new with Jabber, I am not unfamiliar with Open Source, having worked
on Open Source projects from both the Open Source and Corporate view for the
past 7 years.   I am not prepared to make specific technical recommendations
at this time, but I'd like to state where I see Jabber Inc. working with
both the foundation and the Open Source code going forward, and the efforts
at a high level that the Jabber movement needs to accomplish to become a
long term established project.

Jabber Inc. wants to further Jabber as a protocol basis into many products -
both Open and Closed - as fast as possible.  I began the discussion about
this at the jabber Foundation meeting this week.
http://perl.jabber.org/logs/conference.jabber.org/foundation/2002-01-09.html

To begin to be adopted as a more mainstream protocol, Jabber needs to be
adopted through a recognized body, in addition to the Foundation standards
work.  I think the IETF http://www.ietf.org is the appropriate forum for
this universal adoption.  My thoughts for submission are as follows:

1) Submit the Jabber protocol as a draft submitted for historical and
archival information purposes  The intent is for it to be an easy way to
research the historical Jabber protocol (pre -Xmpp) for the technical
community Worldwide
2) Second simultaneous submission to be the future Xmpp (post Jabber JNG)
protocol

This will allow Jabber to begin to flesh out many of the issues discussed in
this thread, such as the store and forward mechanism.  We don't want to
reinvent the wheel as somebody stated in the thread, but leverage areas that
work and use the unique properties of Jabber to re-invigorate the areas we
can.  I hope we can have a standards submission ready to discuss in person
at the March IETF meeting in Minneapolis.
http://www.ietf.org/meetings/meetings.html

To give you an idea of why I am focusing on the standards area, here are
areas that different group are working to get Instant messaging and presence
standards implemented.  It shows a lot of interest in the IT world, but no
unified direction.  Its time that Jabber takes the lead in these areas.
 
Jabber (old submission)
http://docs.jabber.org/rfc/draft-miller-impp-jabber-00.txt
IETF - IMPP  http://www.imppwg.org/
IETF - SIP presence  #1
http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-simple-presence-04.txt
#2 http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sip-message-00.txt
IETF - Simple http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/simple-charter.html
IETF - PRIM http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/prim-charter.html
Wireless Village http://www.wireless-village.org/
PAM http://www.pamforum.org/
IM Unified http://www.imunified.org/
SMS Forum http://smsforum.net/

Related standards:
BeepCore http://www.bxxp.org/beepcore/home.jsp
ITU - working on IM and Presence in their protocol
3GBP - working on IM and Presence in their protocol
IEEE - working on IM and Presence in their protocol

Out of all of these efforts, the IETF fits the Open Source model the best
and can help make the Jabber protocol adopted worldwide, even beyond the
large base of users we now have.  I hope the other efforts can be persuaded
to use our technology as a much more superior way of communicating and
showing presence online.

By focusing on getting standards adopted, we can flesh out many of the areas
that work and those that need work for the JNG.  And Jabber has the ultimate
reference implementation, much like Apache does for http.  Look for our
externally focused standards efforts to be posted on Jabber.org.  I invite
everyone from the community to help get Jabber adopted as a universal
protocol on the Web.

In conclusion, I hope that the community will help drive adoption and that
the Jabber Open Source efforts become the ultimate reference implementation
of the adopted standard.

James Barry
Chief Technical Officer
jmbarry at jabber.com
303.308.3275
JID:jmbarry at jabber.com 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Bauer [mailto:bauer at michaelbauer.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 5:48 PM
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Subject: [JDEV] The Important Things
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> 
> Kind of picking up on my own thread, what exactly are the important
> things? 
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