LDAP reg/auth (was RE: [JDEV] The Important Things)

Constantin Nickonov Nickonov at jabber.com
Fri Jan 11 09:01:35 CST 2002


A bit off thread here... but registration and authentication are two
different actions, i.e., two different namespaces, two different JSM
modules, etc. Check the server config docs for more information.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Riyaad Miller [mailto:RMiller at mweb.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 3:08 AM
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Subject: RE: [JDEV] The Important Things
> 
> 
> Hi Zadk
> 
> strange one 
> any reason why when i do a registration against my ldap 
> server it actually pick up my ldap search and replies that 
> the user already exists (which is good as i'm trying to 
> register a user that already exists) but when i try and 
> authenticate against my ldap - it doesnt even communicate 
> with the ldap server?
> 
> your help and insight would be gr8 on this one
> thx 
> - rm
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: zadk [mailto:zadk at mynet.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:37 AM
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Subject: RE: [JDEV] The Important Things
> 
> 
> 
> Although it would be beneficial, IMHO it can't really solve 
> the problem of
> farming one instant messenger domain. Since when one server 
> goes dowmn the
> users registered on that server will be left in the dark! 
> Please correct me
> if I'm missing something
> 
> Zad
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jdev-admin at jabber.org 
> [mailto:jdev-admin at jabber.org]On Behalf Of
> > Al Sutton
> > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:22 AM
> > To: jdev at jabber.org
> > Subject: RE: [JDEV] The Important Things
> >
> >
> > Jer has said the capability is pretty much there, so I 
> think the next
> > thing is try to put together a proof of concept. My C is 
> rusty and my
> > day job is hectic, so I'm unlikley to be able to do anything for a
> > while, so if you want to get stuck in feel free.
> >
> > Al.
> >
> > On Thu, 2002-01-10 at 22:45, Tim Ferguson wrote:
> > > I really, really like this idea, although I would not 
> consider myself an
> > > expert yet I am willing to help out/move it along in this arena.
> > >
> > > Tim Ferguson
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jdev-admin at jabber.org [mailto:jdev-admin at jabber.org]On
> > Behalf Of Al
> > > Sutton
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:00 PM
> > > To: jdev at jabber.org
> > > Subject: Re: [JDEV] The Important Things
> > >
> > > Why not add authentication and message relaying to the 
> S2S protocol.
> > >
> > > This would give four advantages;
> > >
> > > 1. Any user could log into any machine and the server 
> would relay the
> > > authentication request to the relevant machine to handle 
> authentication.
> > >
> > > 2. The messages for that user would be relayed to the 
> server they are
> > > logged in to and then forwarded on to them.
> > >
> > > 3. Clusters or farms could be constructed to server a a 
> single jabber
> > > community and the load shared between them.
> > >
> > > 4. This would only involve a change to the S2S protol and servers
> > > supporting it (of which there are few), and would leave 
> the C2S protocol
> > > unchanged and thus not require any client changes.
> > >
> > > Comments?
> > >
> > > Al.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2002-01-10 at 15:50, Ashvil wrote:
> > > > > I found that we could use some kind of a gateway -
> > > > > people connect to one server ( for example jabbber.org )
> > autheticate -
> > > > > get a token/session id - and then continue with a server
> > > > > l1.l4.dddljfds.jabbber.org that are real jabber servers.
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas that can help in scalability are welcome. If we can
> > use a pool
> > > of
> > > > cheap PCs to build a scalable jabber network, then even more
> > valuable then
> > > > having One big Server with Gigs of memory.
> > > >
> > > > This will require some changes in the Jabber protocol. The
> > MSN protocol
> > > does
> > > > something like this, but takes this one step ahead by letting
> > you connect
> > > to
> > > > any server in the pool, which then refers you to the right
> > server that can
> > > > authenticate you. If you make logging in a two-step process,
> > you can solve
> > > > this problem but that would mean changing all the Jabber
> > clients and also
> > > > the S2S communication in the Jabber server.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, this is an area that the Jabber server 
> developers are the best
> > > folks
> > > > to comment on.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Ashvil
> > > >
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