[JDEV] The Important Things

Jeremie jeremie at jabber.org
Thu Jan 10 14:56:44 CST 2002


First, for normal s2s, unless you were using some form of digest or
zero-knowledge authentication you wouldn't want to trust remote servers to
do this kind of thing for your users :)

The more important answer is that the server pretty much does and allows
this already.  The protocol that the client socket managers use to talk to
the session manager works like you describe, you can have many client
handlers working as a farm running from anywhere.

In a future generation I could easily see some capabilities to allow
dynamic switching and redirecting of connections as mentioned.

Jer

On 10 Jan 2002, Al Sutton wrote:

> Why not add authentication and message relaying to the S2S protocol.
> 
> This would give four advantages;
> 
> 1. Any user could log into any machine and the server would relay the
> authentication request to the relevant machine to handle authentication.
> 
> 2. The messages for that user would be relayed to the server they are
> logged in to and then forwarded on to them.
> 
> 3. Clusters or farms could be constructed to server a a single jabber
> community and the load shared between them.
> 
> 4. This would only involve a change to the S2S protol and servers
> supporting it (of which there are few), and would leave the C2S protocol
> unchanged and thus not require any client changes.
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Al. 
> 
> On Thu, 2002-01-10 at 15:50, Ashvil wrote:
> > > I found that we could use some kind of a gateway -
> > > people connect to one server ( for example jabbber.org ) autheticate -
> > > get a token/session id - and then continue with a server
> > > l1.l4.dddljfds.jabbber.org that are real jabber servers.
> > <snip>
> > 
> > Any ideas that can help in scalability are welcome. If we can use a pool of
> > cheap PCs to build a scalable jabber network, then even more valuable then
> > having One big Server with Gigs of memory.
> > 
> > This will require some changes in the Jabber protocol. The MSN protocol does
> > something like this, but takes this one step ahead by letting you connect to
> > any server in the pool, which then refers you to the right server that can
> > authenticate you. If you make logging in a two-step process, you can solve
> > this problem but that would mean changing all the Jabber clients and also
> > the S2S communication in the Jabber server.
> > 
> > Anyway, this is an area that the Jabber server developers are the best folks
> > to comment on.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Ashvil
> > 
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