[JDEV] The Important Things

[Alper Tarhan]

I totaly agree with Ashvil.
It's the same kind of discussion I was trying discuss in the jadmin list.
You can follow the the below discussion in the jadmin list.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alper Tarhan" <jabber at papatya.com>
To: <jadmin at jabber.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [jadmin] When may the scalability issues solved??


> Do you think these performance parameters are really necessary for the
> design?
> I mean in my opinion, anyone suffering from scalability and performance
> should easily be able to overcome this problem by adding a new hardware
box
> to the farm.
> I know it is easy to talk about it :) and it may require radical changes
in
> the design but it doesnt seem impossible.
>
> This issue is the most important advantage of  the commercial server over
> the open-source one.
> It's for sure Jabber.com has to earn some money to stay alive and continue
> support for Jabber technology.
> But in my opinion without solving the scalability issues, the open-source
> server will go no furher than serving
> limited community of users and never being considered as a mass IM
> technology or an alternative to the commercial one.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Saint-Andre" <stpeter at jabber.org>
> To: <jadmin at jabber.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 6:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [jadmin] When may the scalability issues solved??
>
>
> > Well I think we'd need to set some parameters. It's easy to talk about
> > scalability but how high do people (e.g., you) really need to scale in
> > terms of registered users, concurrent users, messages per second, and so
> > on? Hard numbers will give developers some design goals.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > --
> > Peter Saint-Andre
> > email+jabber: stpeter at jabber.org
> > web: http://www.saint-andre.com/
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Alper Tarhan wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi there,
> > > I have been following the Jabber technologies through this list for
> about a year.
> > > And I have also setup a server myself and wrote a simple client for
> test.
> > >
> > > At that time, I was searching for messaging technologies and heard
about
> Jabber.
> > > After some research, my first question was the "Scalability Issues"
> which seemed a major problem to me.
> > > I wrote it to the list and I asked what to do or any plans for solving
> this.
> > > I was told that by the time I was able to collect that many users, the
> problem would be already solved.
> > > I havent of course that many users but without the techn.
availability,
> you cannot promote your service with confidence.
> > >
> > > As you can see the frequent posts on this list, "Scalability Issues"
are
> still the major concern for many of us.
> > > I appreciate and congratulate all the designers, developers and
> contributers to this technology.
> > > But in order to boost it, in my opinion, it is a Priority #1 issue to
be
> solved.
> > >
> > > I know there are methods to increase the # concurrent users on a
single
> machine.
> > > There are also contributions to allow for farming and multiplexing
> socket connections.
> > > Do it yourself may be a method, but I think this issue must be solved
in
> design and standardly integrated in the main architecture .
> > > Again in my opinion, the best way would be the farming with support
for
> a central xdb, which would give the most flexible architecture in terms of
> scalability and high-availability.
> > >
> > > You can offer the "Jabber.com" commercial product for those big
players,
> but  you know it wouldnt be the best solution for many of us.
> > >
> > > I would be pleased to know what you think about this issue.
> > > What priority should it be for future releases?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
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