[JDEV] Thoughts on AOL

Thomas Muldowney temas at box5.net
Tue Jan 8 19:43:03 CST 2002


There is no SMTP, that is there is no clear cut standard.  The IETF has
proved themselves to be incapable of producing one as well, so we have a
competing market of IM providers.  All those providers want to grab as
many eyes as possible for whatever their means are.  There are clients
that work for all systems (gaim and Trillian come to mind), but you
can't message between systems.  A user has to be established on each
network just like with Jabber.  Until we get a common standard that's
the way it's going to be.  Who knows, maybe we'll become a de facto
standard =)

--temas

P.S. - It's not about ads, I don't think it ever has been for any of
them.

On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 05:06:41PM -0800, Aaron McBride wrote:
> 
> Here's something that's been bugging me for a while.  Why can't IM be like 
> email?
> Why can't I log into Yahoo and send a message to someone on AIM (without 
> having to get an AIM account)?
> Why can't I setup a server at my office that checks which of my "buddies" 
> are online, and let me know?
> 
> Is it really about resources?  If so, why doesn't AOL block email from the 
> outside world?
> Is it really about "protecting their users from spam"?  If so, why don't 
> they do something about all of the spam on ICQ?
> 
> Seriously... I'm baffled.  Maybe it all comes down to ad revenue.  If AOL, 
> or MS, or Yahoo, or whoever own the standard, then they can ensure that 
> they have their millions people looking at the ads that they sell.  Can we 
> somehow create a situation where the protocol is standardized, but there is 
> still a way for the people interested in making money to provide a client 
> that is better enough that people will use it with ads?  I'm thinking of 
> the Eudora model with email.
> 
> I'll shut-up now.  :)
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> 
> >It's just that they have this crappy double standard about how people are 
> >allowed to use the resources that they already offer up to the non-paying 
> >public, and it seems that a lot of people here (myself included) are 
> >wondering if we should respect *that* at all.
> >
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Thomas Muldowney
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