[JDEV] File Transfer Proposals

Dave dave at dave2.dave.tj
Wed Feb 20 14:53:38 CST 2002


All the negotiations == the PASS request :-)
Once both sides are connected using PASS, the HTTP request/response
commences, and from there on, everything's controlled using plain old
HTTP (which is rediculously simple).  Patching existing clients will be
a piece of cake, and making new clients will be almost as easy.

 - Dave


Richard Dobson wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 02:03:36PM -0000, Richard Dobson wrote:
> > > > No ... I don't think you need 3 days to send some headers ... you just
> > > have
> > > > to preprend to all your outgoing connections "GET / HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n"
> and
> > > to
> > > > all incomming connections "HTTP/1.0 200 OK\r\n\r\n". I really can't
> see
> > > why
> > > > you need 3 days to implement that. - Oh, sure ... you have to strip
> that
> > > > headers when you receive it ... 1 minute more to write the code for
> that.
> > >
> > > What?? and you think that we be robust enough and compatible enough to
> > > always work with all clients, somehow I doubt it.
> >
> > For most purposes this will be enough. And it can be easily extended
> > when needed (and there is no need to invent new extensions). Will the
> > new simple streaming protocol as extensible as HTTP?
> >
> > And this will work with existing Jabber clients.
> 
> Are you sure it would be enough, wont the libraries that the clients are
> built with be expecting all sorts of headers not just the request responses,
> how extensible does the simple streaming protocol really need to be, all it
> is supposed to be for is directly streaming a file p2p from one person to
> another simply and easily, not having to deal with HTTP requests, and the
> fact that the person might not immediately retrieve the file meaning that
> you have to keep the port open indefinately until someone connects and
> retrieves the file, which might not even be the real person, by doing this
> streaming protocol you can do the negotiation and control over the xml
> stream and it ends up being much easier and far more secure, im sure if you
> needed to add any security into the HTTP example provided it would make it a
> hell of a lot more complicated.
> 
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