[JDEV] File Transfer Proposals

[Richard Dobson]

It is not designed for just sending a single a file p2p to someone, it is
designed as a system of hosting a structured collection of files that is
left available for anyone to browse through, also, 500 lines ?? a simple
system such as i suggested could im sure be provided in a fraction of that
code.

----- Original Message -----
From: <tom_waters at mac.com>
To: <jdev at jabber.org>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JDEV] File Transfer Proposals


> what is bloated about HTTP?  it's a pretty simple protocol...
>
> i wrote the server side of http in my jabber client for p2p transfers in
> a little over 500 lines of objective-c.  the client side is even easier,
> i use libCurl.
>
> On Monday, February 18, 2002, at 07:09 AM, aliban at gmx.net wrote:
>
> > Hey, exactly my point of view.
> >
> > Edrin :)
> >
> >> The main problems I see are that HTTP/FTP are far too bloated
> >> protocols, all
> >> is really needed just like msn, icq, and aim is just a basic protocol
> >> for
> >> sending the file p2p, thats what IM file transfers are, you dont need
> >> all
> >> this storing of files for offline users and uploading to HTTP servers,
> >> if
> >> someone wants to send a file to someone who is offline they will email
> >> it to
> >> them, if someone wants to put the file up and lets lots of people
> >> access it
> >> they will upload it to their website, there is no need to make this a
> >> hundred times more complicated than it needs to be, all IM file
> >> transfer
> >> needs to be is a quick way to send files p2p, and the best way I see of
> >> doing that is just opening up a socket, get the other person to
> >> connect and
> >> then just stream the data to them, maybe with a few control messages
> >> sent
> >> over the xml stream, and if they are behind NAT's and could not
> >> connect then
> >> just make it automatically retry using PASS instead of a direct
> >> connection,
> >> lets just keep this simple guys. This way it keeps things simple you
> >> dont
> >> have to have the bloat and insecurity of having a HTTP/FTP
> >> server/client
> >> software built into the client, it also helps keep things more legally
> >> safe/secure as the files are not being saved anywhere other than on the
> >> machines of the two people sending/receiving the file, and also saves
> >> on
> >> having to setup all sorts of webdav storage servers and all the
> >> unnesessary
> >> complexity and cost thats involves.
> >>
> >> Well just my 2p.
> >>
> >> Rich
>
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