[JDEV] OT: AOL Patents IM (Patent creates IM wrinkle )

Federico Lucifredi flucifredi at acm.org
Fri Dec 20 09:25:49 CST 2002


Doh!
    That would be Zephyr, Federico ;-)

    -the other Federico


----- Original Message -----
From: "Federico Lucifredi" <flucifredi at acm.org>
To: <jdev at jabber.org>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:51
Subject: Re: [JDEV] OT: AOL Patents IM (Patent creates IM wrinkle )


> Hello Pete,
>     By Cambridge I assume you mean MIT, and as usually MIT can lay a
(often
> well-founded) claim to almost any innovation in a fashion similar to Pavel
> Chekov claiming that Boston Creme (among others) was invented in Russia, I
> did a bit of searching...
>
>     It looks like the Tech Review did post claims to the matter. The
system
> is called Zephir (or at least it is today), and it dates back to the
Athena
> project - official deploy date: 1988.
>
>     Here -> http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/trailing1002.asp is
the
> article.
>
>     -Federico
>
> I do not want to sound melodramatic, but next week perhaps someone will
> patent scrambled eggs and we will be searching for prior art into that....
> as if no one had better things to do....grumble grumble  :-(
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pete Chown" <1 at 234.cx>
> To: <jdev at jabber.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 14:43
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] OT: AOL Patents IM (Patent creates IM wrinkle )
>
>
> > Van Gale wrote:
> >
> > > As for IRC and VAX phone, yes they're clearly earlier examples of
> chatting,
> > > but I think it's stretching it to say they had presence.
> >
> > We had presence in Cambridge in 1990.  Also, in response to the other
> > comment, it was network location independent.  For example I could log
> > on from a Computer Lab DECstation.  The presence information was then
> > available University-wide.  No one had to ask that specific workstation
> > for my details.  However, anyone who wanted could see which DECstation I
> > was logged in from, what room in the CL I was sitting in, and so on.
> >
> > Funny, it didn't seem at all profound at the time, but it was years
> > ahead of the competition... :-)
> >
> > --
> > Pete
> >
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