[JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

Dave dave at dave.tj
Tue Apr 23 16:41:47 CDT 2002


...so I take it your vote would go for a proper XML-based approach?

 - Dave


Mattias Campe wrote:
> 
> Dave wrote:
> > Reply inline:
> > 
> >  - Dave
> > 
> > Richard Dobson wrote:
> > 
> [...]
> >>Of course you would, it doesnt mean you are right, emoticons are a client
> >>feature and should have the ability to be turned off, which in your method
> >>they cant be without turning off all embedded images,
> > 
> > Well-authored IMG tags have ALT attributes which provide a very
> > good replacement that can be adjusted on a case-by-case basis so the
> > replacement text conveys the intent of the sender.  Having emoticons
> > replaced by stuff like :love: (or worse, :luv:) will leave people wishing
> > (a) they didn't disable emoticons; or (b) their friends didn't insist
> > on sending them these stupid emoticons.  I'd much rather let stuff
> > like ":-)" which is used in email as-is stay as-is, just as in email,
> > and let the receiving client replace that sort of stuff on its own.
> > Anything more complex is better handled as an actual image (what it
> > really is), rather than trying to disguise it as a replaceable regexp :-(
> > 
> [...]
> 
> Yes, of course IMG tags have ALT attributes if sb doesn't want to have 
> those emoticons filling their desktop. But suppose I'm is using an 
> English client with some sort of click-facility to have an emoticon 
> placed in the message. I send it to my sister en she's using a client 
> that doesn't support emoticons. Now, that would be just fine, she can 
> read the ALT attribute, if it wasn't for the fact that she doesn't 
> understand English :( And English may be spoken a lot, it is still not a 
> standard...
> So there will be a need for some sort of standard anyway, the client 
> can't keep a dictionary to translate alt="luv" to e.g. liefde, but also 
> alt="love" to liefde or alt="lovvveu" to liefde or ... (btw: liefde is 
> Dutch for love).
> 
> greetz
> .m.
> 
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