[JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

Dave dave at dave.tj
Tue Apr 23 15:34:31 CDT 2002


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 - Dave

Richard Dobson wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave" <dave at dave.tj>
> To: <jdev at jabber.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines
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> > > also there is no way
> > > of stopping the sending person from sending them in the xml in the first
> > > place,
> > How about sending:
> > <message to="annoying_emoticon_sender at whereever_he_happens_to_be"
> type="normal">Please stop sending me these stupid emoticons.  They add
> nothing to your messages, and simply make my Jabber client work overtime to
> find and display appropriate images.  There are a bunch of relatively
> standard emoticons which you can use as-is, but please don't bother me with
> all that MSN crap.  (Crap is a technical term - it refers to this shit you
> keep sending me.)</message>
> > to whoever refuses to purify his XML streams to you?
> > Seriously, how does your system "[stop] the sending person from sending
> > them in the xml in the first place?"
> 
> Well because of the fact that all the added information is in its own x
> element its a LOT easier to separate out of the message being sent, this
Oh, I see what you mean ... good point :-(
Still, though, you're not getting any net savings, since it still all
has to get pumped down the network stream, and the receiving client
still has to parse it all.

> pub/sub stuff may be able to help turning it on and off, also the sending
> client could browse the recipients address to see if it supports that x
> element and only send it if it does.
Well, the sending client can just as easily browse the recipient's
address to see if it supports HTML :-)

...although I've had the chance to think about Mr. Waite's suggestion
now, and I think making our own attempt at essentially reimplementing
HTML may be a good idea ... here's my question: does anybody else know
of a reimplementation of HTML using a larger subset of XML (i.e., a
"new and improved" HTML)?  If something like that exists, using it would
probably be wise, assuming it's reasonably compatible with the real HTML.

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