[JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

[Dave]

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 - Dave

Tijl Houtbeckers wrote:
> 
> >Okay, now before you read my response to a previous message (which
> >answers all your concerns), can anybody come up with any more problems
> >with the HTML IMG tag approach?  That was certainly a rather major salvo
> >of bashing you folks put up ;-P
> 
> Well if you want my opinion, it's simply too much for emoticons.. what you're 
> suggesting is more along the lines of for example an MMS message.. wich is 
> something that could give jabber a little edge over other messaging systems maybe, 
> but it should be defined for that purpose then (along with things like sound). Not 
> emoticons..
...but I see no reason to define a set of emoticons if emoticons can be
more better supported through the use of a full-blown MMS format ... not
only that, but by implementing an existing standard for embedding stuff
in messages, we'll be avoiding plenty of other several-dozen-post heated
debates about how to implement sound embedding, video embedding, etc.,
that are going to occur during the next year or so, so client developers
will know exactly what to do without having to ask anybody - certainly
without having to extend the Jabber protocol YET AGAIN :-(

> 
> If I look at all the discussion about it here I think the most far we could get is define a 
> list of emiticons used by jabber.
There you go again, trying to create a new standard to compete with
other standards :-(

> Clients can simply choose to support property clients 
> emoticons like MSN then or not (after all you ussually know to wich gateway or user 
> you send a message :)
If clients aren't going to be expected to follow our "standards"
(probably due to the preexistance of many other "standards"), why
even bother making these "standards?"  We'll only be increasing the
fragmentation of emoticon support in Jabber clients, and that can't be
good for the popularity of the Jabber system :-(

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