[JDEV] How should a good client have to look like

[Mattias Campe]

Julian Missig wrote:
> While giving general suggestions and overall opinions and such may keep
> conversations going, it's not particularly productive. I think a lot of
> people know that these things are needed.
> 
> If you *really* want to see Jabber clients improve, I highly suggest
> filing bugs against the clients which don't do things the way you think
> they should. Not only will it start get the ball rolling on conversation
> (especially if you file a bug *and* post a mailing message saying "hey,
> I just filed this wishlist bug against client xxx because I think it
> should do yyy"), but it won't go away easily. As long as the bug list is
> there and the client authors look at the bug list, they'll be reminded
> of your request.

I already do so ;-p I've have a dual boot system and I use linux most of 
the time. In linux, I use gabber, liking it a lot: I really don't need 
emoticons. Then, on the other hand, I've got my Windows friends and they 
do need those emoticons.
So I try to follow a Jabber client: Exodus. When a new release comes 
out, I even restart my computer in Windows to see how it works and then 
I post bugs and feature requests on the Exodus homepage (name: cobnet). 
When I'm done I restart again in Linux. I must say that I don't mail to 
the developer because I think they don't like it.

> So get your friends to try Jabber clients. If they find things they want
> or don't like, either get them to file a wishlist bug (feature request),
> or do so yourself. I can assure you any decent client author would
> appreciate it :)

I already did: I convinced some people to try Winjab, Exodus and Shaolo 
and asked them what they miss in the program. It almost always came back 
to the things I wrote in my post. Sorry, but I can't e-mail all of the 
developers to say what I think. Then I thought "hey, they probabably 
subscribed to jdev at jabber.org, so I'll have them all...

> Julian
> 
> On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 19:57, Mattias Campe wrote:
> 
>>The one thing I want the most is to have a good working bugfree Jabber 
>>client. Not an overfeatured one (like ICQ), but one with, next to the 
>>normal features:
>>
>>* good, stable (resumable) file transfer that also works for big files
>>
>>* good notification when a message arrives (I liked the notification of 
>>ICQ a lot!)
>>
>>* broadcast message to a group
>>
>>I tried to convince some people of using Jabber and the things I 
>>mentioned above were the ones that were talked most about. I have the 
>>patience to wait for "my" good client, but a lot of the people I tried 
>>to convince don't :( . They liked the idea of an open source IM-system, 
>>but they can't live without a good Jabber client.
>>
>>What other (windows-)people like a lot is (/me does not care):
>>
>>* emoticons: as much as their computer can store ;-)
>>  (also see: "[JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines"
>>
>>* File sharing. Although I totally dislike this feature of ICQ, people 
>>find it handy to be able to transfer and share files. Personally I hate 
>>it when people are downloading stuff from my computer and I don't know 
>>who or what. I must say that I don't know how things would be solved 
>>when one client supports file sharing and the other doesn't. Does the 
>>Jabber protocol itself supports file sharing?
>>
>>
>>What do you think yourself?
>>
>>greetz
>>.m.
>>aka (c)obnet
>>
>>---
>>http://student.rug.ac.be/astrid/Internet/jabber.php
> 
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