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 - Dave


Mattias Campe wrote:
> 
> Dave wrote:
> > That's an interesting angle ... maybe we need to work more on getting
> > Jabber to work well with itself, and less on getting Jabber to "emulate"
> > other protocols.  Improving client functionality and stability seems to
> > be the single biggest request I get from other programmers who normally
> > communicate on ICQ, for instance.  I think we also need to work hard on
> > getting Jabber onto everybody's Linux desktop: RH and Mdk would be the
> > two distros I'd consider most important, due to their volume.
> 
> I totally agree !
You also mentioned SuSE, in another post :-)

> 
> > 
> > Also, I think we should all list our JIDs as early as possible in our
> > contact info lists.  Having our email addresses and Jabber IDs be the
> > same is also good, because it gives us a measurable advantage over all
> > other major IM systems with the exception of MSN (although why anybody
> > would want to use Hotmail over Yahoo! Mail at this point is beyond me)
> > in terms of consistency.
> [...]
> 
> I personally don't think that a lot of people need another e-mail 
> addres. Maybe it's better to write libraries that client developers can 
> use to check their existing e-mail adress(es) for new e-mail. Of course 
> you could make it a server thing and having the info through headlines. 
> Then every client automatically would support this notification (of 
> course if the server supports it)
Nonono ... I'm not talking about getting another email address; I'm talking about using your domain (which you're probably already using for email) for Jabber too, so you can have your JID be the same as your already-existing email addy :-)

> 
> > Lastly, of course (how many people have already shouted this?),
> > getting ISPs to setup a tiny Linux box running a Jabber server for
> > their subscribers would be great, and getting users to ask their ISPs
> > to provide Jabber servers may be even better.
> 
> Imagine how it would be if the Jabber Community could be convinced of 
> the use of Jabber! Well, reality is different, real life example: my ISP 
> provided a CD-Rom with some software on it, like IE and Netscape. Guess 
> what sort of IM systems were on it? Jup, ICQ and MSN, not a byte, not 
> even a bit was devoted to Jabber :( ...
Have you tried complaining to your ISP that they don't "support"
Jabber, or some other type of rediculous accusation just to get their
awareness up?

> 
> Of course if ISPs would have a Jabber server, then I hope that they make 
> it clear enough to the people that they actually can choose any server 
> they want. Otherwise people will think that Jabber just is another 
> proprietary IM system.
If an ISP is willing to use Jabber, I'll say "Thank you very much" and
avoid picking any further.  Users will figure out whatever they want
whenever they want, but  the reality is that most users don't seem to
mind being "locked in" even when we're talking about _real_ proprietary
protocols (e.g. AIM, ICQ, YIM, MSNM, etc.).  You certainly won't see me
complaining about people unknowningly using an open IM system ;-)

> 
> > Clearly, we need to reveal the "secret" of Jabber, because at the moment,
> > Jabber really is one of the best-kept secrets - even in the open source
> > community itself - because people simply don't know what it actually
> > is :-(
I can't stress that enough :-(

> 
> > Dave Cohen <dave at dave.tj>
> [...]
> 
> .m.
> 
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