[JDEV] Question about UserName and Clients

Ashvil ashvil at i3connect.net
Tue Apr 16 00:28:51 CDT 2002


Thanks Temas and Michael. But I am still not clear, why we should not
support this.

Why not do it like email clients.
Pop and SMTP servers run on a different subdomain machines.
But Email addresses are always in the form of abc at xyz.com not
abc at pop.xyz.com

IMHO, The current client behavior is too restrictive. It forces me to a JID
that is tied to the name of the server that I connect to. This is
unacceptable to the customers who want to outsource their IM hosting to an
ISP that does Jabber hosting.

If the suggestion that I proposed is followed, then it becomes very easy for
folks to contact an ISP that offers Jabber hosting to become jabber enabled,
without disturbing their current web/email hosting setup. (And without
getting involved in Packet forwarding between two ISPs). This is a real
issue for customers who want the IM address to be the same as their email
address but want to use a different ISP for the IM hosting part. This will
help the nascent IM hosting market using Jabber to develop.

All I am asking is that if the username contains '@' , then the clients send
that as the JID. If not then continue the current behavior.

The are benefits to my proposal (and a older version of WinJab was doing
this too). What are the issues that outweigh these benefits.

Regards,
Ashvil


----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Muldowney" <temas at box5.net>
To: <jdev at jabber.org>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JDEV] Question about UserName and Clients


> Generally this should be encoded as abc%xyz.com at im.xyz.com.  Just like
> it's done to use msn-t with passport accounts.
>
> --temas
>
>
> On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 06:24, Ashvil wrote:
> > Is there a reason why some clients like JabberIM 1.10 and WinJab 1.1 do
not allow you to use an email address as a user name like 'abc at xyz.com'.
They don't seem to like the '@'.
> >
> > IMHO, if the user enters
> > UserName : abc at xyz.com
> > Server : im.xyz.com
> >
> > Then it should connect to the server at im.xyz.com and send the JID as
abc at xyz.com
> > And if the username does not contain a '@' character, then append the
server name to generate the JID.
> >
> > This way, I can run the server on a sub domain (maybe outsourced to a
different ISP) and still have my JID with my main domain name.
> >
> > Can someone enlighten me on this issue.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ashvil
> >
> > PS - WinJab 0.9.5.7 used to do this the way, I suggested
> >
> >
>
>
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