[JDEV] A way to spread the message about Jabber and interoperability

Justin Mecham justin at aspect.net
Thu Nov 15 15:03:18 CST 2001


I am totally against any sort of advertising such as this. Even though I 
want to get the word out about Jabber I don't think this is the right 
way. If you are chatting with those people anyways, just mention Jabber 
to them yourself. If I were not using Jabber and received this message I 
would be extremely annoyed and would likely never try Jabber, but that's 
just me.

Another point is that having any sort of static or repetative string of 
text in messages to the networks we are trying to interoperate with, we 
are providing them with a fingerprint with which they can block us with. 
All they have to do is detect messages that contain that string and they 
can easily drop that message or disconnect you from the server, 
rendering your transport useless.

I want more people to use Jabber as much as anyone, but forcing our 
message onto people who may not want it or even care about it is a bad 
idea.

Justin

On Thursday, November 15, 2001, at 01:52  PM, Rikard Linde wrote:

> Hi. Today I read news about people using multiple IM
> clients!! This made me upset so I wrote a message to
> Jabber people who are in a position to do something
> about this. Here's a short summary of the message:
>
> By attaching a message to each stream going to other
> networks (ICQ, MSN, Yahoo...) Jabber can promote
> interoperability and itself. This capability is unique
> to Jabber as it is the only interoperable IM platform.
>
> You can read the entire message at:
>
> http://www.sprinterface.com/rikard/promoteinteroperability.html
>
> What do you think? What's good about it? What's bad
> about it? Alternatives?
> If you think this is a good idea I'd be glad if you
> influnced people in a position to do something about
> it (people running servers, people coding transports,
> the Jabber council etcetera).
>
> Rikard
>
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