[JDEV] good discussion

[Julian Missig]

'Jabber' is, and always has been, the name of the protocol. The server
was also called Jabber, but now there's a specific Open Source Linux
server called Jabelin which is not being run by Jabber.com... Jabber.com
wants to be able to keep their commercial server separate.

Calling something "Jabber Powered" would mean that it is using Jabber...
the protocol. I call my client Gabber: The GNOME Jabber Client - I'm not
referring to the server there, but the protocol... it's the same as
calling it Gabber: The GNOME IMTP Client if it were renamed IMTP.

Julian

On 16 May 2001 15:43:23 -0500, Emswiler, Mike wrote:
> Sorry I missed it - and will miss the next one, too - bad day for me.
> 
> But after reviewing the log, here's my $0.02 worth (assuming we live in an
> open source democracy):
> 
> I vote to call the protocol IMTP (Instant Messaging Transport Protocol) ala
> HTTP, FTP, et. al.
> 
> I think "Jabber Powered" or "Powered By Jabber" are actually misnomers,
> unless you actually have a Jabber Server embedded in your product.  If your
> product is a client, I would assume that advertising that it is "IMTP
> compliant" would be what you really want.  I mean after all, we don't want
> AIM to be "Powered by Jabber" but it sure would be nice if it were "IMTP
> Compatible"
> 
> Further, it was my assumption when beginning to work with Jabber that
> "Jabber" (the word) referred to the Open-Source Linux Server Project.  I
> understand that the server has now been renamed to Jabelin, which is kinda
> cool, but is that actually a rename, or is that just a code-name for a new
> version of the server?
> 
> If it's an actual rename, then I suppose some clarification is in order (TBD
> by the foundation, I would assume) as to what exactly "Jabber" is and who
> can use it.  In all honesty, since the server has been renamed, it's quite
> possible that the word "Jabber" might come out of common use and the whole
> discussion of who owns the trademark becomes moot.
> 
> :)
> 
> Thanks,
> MikeE
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Saint-Andre [mailto:stpeter at jabber.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:56 PM
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Subject: [JDEV] good discussion
> 
> We had a good discussion regarding the Jabber Foundation in the
> foundation at conference.jabber.org meeting room just now. A log is here:
> 
> http://perl.jabber.org/logs/conference.jabber.org/foundation/2001-05-16.html
> 
> Another Foundation meeting will be held in the same room at 22:00 UTC
> (about 2 hours from the time I'm sending this email). If you will be
> participating in the next meeting, please read the log ahead of time so
> you know what we've already discussed. Also available is the meeting
> agenda, there's a link to it from http://foundation.jabber.org/ (right
> at the bottom of the page).
> 
> Peter
> 
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