[JDEV] Jabber, the Name

[Gregory Graham]

Jabber has the potential to be much bigger than Jabber.com. It has the
potential to become the presence, instant messaging, real-time peer-to-peer
communication standard of the Internet, becoming as much a part of the net
as SMTP, DNS, and HTTP. I believe we will someday have a standard protocol
for this kind of communication, if not Jabber, at least something similar.

However, if you look at these other ubiquitous protocols, they're not tied
to any kind of branding or trademark restriction. People work to keep their
software compatible because of professional pride and a desire for their
product to work well, not for the sake of getting to display a logo. This
kind of tactic reminds me more of Sun's struggle to control Java while still
fostering community involvement. Although Java is successful (I'm speaking
as a Java programmer, myself.) I think Sun's effort to control it has kept
it from being as widely adopted as it could have been. I'm not saying that
there's been no benefit from Sun's control of Java, but I do know of people
who don't use it solely because it is under Sun control.

The world is changing, and maybe Jabber.com will be the first to
successfully walk this tight-rope. Or maybe the protocol will develop a life
of it's own outside of Jabber.com, and may even shed the Jabebr name. It
will be interesting to watch.

Peace,
Greg


-----Original Message-----
From: Iain Shigeoka [mailto:iainshigeoka at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:59 AM
To: jdev at jabber.org
Subject: Re: [JDEV] Jabber, the Name


At 09:43 AM 5/15/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>On Monday, May 14, 2001, at 12:48 PM, Flora Brunas wrote:
>
>>Is Jabber.com the only commercial company allowed to
>>use the word "Jabber" for their company names and
>>products?  This is not fair.
>
>I agree. And this brings up a tangential question: what are the rules for 
>Jabber clients' use of the Jabber "lightbulb" logo, and where can I get a 
>canonical image of the logo to use in my client? I haven't seen any on the 
>websites (wherever the logo appears it's joined into some other artwork in 
>such a way that extracting it would be beyond my artistic skills.)

Hmm.  Yes.  I think it may be nice if/when we get true formalized protocol 
docs out to create compatibility tests (server and client).  A client that 
passes the test could use a "powered by Jabber" type of logo...  It would 
be up to jabber.com and the Foundation to decide if that would be the 
lightbulb or another logo...

Thoughts?

-iain
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