[JDEV] Unreliable?

[temas]

http://docs.jabber.org/draft-proto/html/events.html
http://docs.jabber.org/draft-proto/html/expire.html

Although not spec yet, we have discussed this issue before, and events
have some functionality tailored to that idea.

--temas

On 03 May 2001 10:01:34 -0500, Colin Madere wrote:
> 
> Couldn't someone relatively easily build this into a client?  You could sent
> "message receipt" messages with the ID of the message sent to you and the
> client could take care of keeping track of it.  Just send a message with an
> <x> namespace that the special client knows to process differently.. no
> server mod necessary...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: travis at thinkvirtual.com [mailto:travis at thinkvirtual.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 5:25 PM
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Subject: RE: RE: [JDEV] Unreliable?
> 
> 
> I couldn't imagine using a messenger in a business environment that didn't
> get all the messages through to me.  That would go straight into the trash
> can if I wasn't sure I was going to get a message or not.  I'm pretty sure
> that when using icq or the other messengers, you do not lose any messages,
> or I have never run across it at least and I've used icq for years now.
> This is probably the one thing that will make me switch back to icq (been
> using jabber for about a month now) until this is smoothed over.  It's not
> the lack of features because the most important thing here is messaging, but
> the lack of reliability.   
> 
> I really think there should be a way of guaranteeing that a message was
> received.  Or if not, at least bounce it back.   
> 
> Travis 
> 
> ---- Original Message ---- 
> From: Colin Madere <colin at vedalabs.com> 
> Sent: 2001-05-02 13:19:00.0 
> To: "'jdev at jabber.org'" <jdev at jabber.org> 
> Subject: RE: [JDEV] Unreliable? 
> 
> 
> 
> I don't know that everyone needs _guarenteed_ messaging (although I'm sure
> everyone would like it).  That does add overhead and client/server
> complexity.  I've looked into things such as SonicMQ, MQseries and JMS in
> general and a Jabber server/client developed on JMS would probably be an
> interesting thing to do.
> (JMS = Java Message Service) 
> Are there any open standards out there regarding message queing / guarenteed
> messages etc. besides JMS (since some people still don't like Java)?
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: temas [mailto:temas at box5.net] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:19 PM 
> > To: jdev at jabber.org 
> > Subject: Re: [JDEV] Unreliable? 
> > 
> > 
> > What's the whole setup? 
> > 
> > As for messaging as you describe it, this is being discussed in JAM. 
> > 
> > --temas 
> > 
> > On 02 May 2001 10:20:25 -0600, travis at thinkvirtual.com wrote: 
> > > My main concern with jabber is that you can't always be 
> > guaranteed to receive a message.  Now most of my list is icq 
> > buddies, but I miss a lot of messages.  I tell people to 
> > email me if they want to make sure I get it.  
> > > 
> > > Now I'm not sure if this is the server or the client (i'm 
> > using jim mostly)?  Or is it just that it's mostly from icq users?  
> > > 
> > > Could someone give me some insight into this?  Thanks. 
> > > 
> > > Travis Reeder 
> > > Chief Software Architect 
> > > ThinkVirtual 
> > > 
> > > 
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