[JDEV] Requesting presence of User not in Roster

[Peter Saint-Andre]

I can see how that might be helpful, but it kind of goes against the
Jabber philosophy to enable just anyone to see your presence without your
consent. That said, the WCS+HTTP module (warning: alpha code ahead!)
enables you to place a little button on a web page indicating your
presence status, and since it's on the public web it's world-viewable. Or
you could, as mentioned, create a server-side module that keeps track of
the presence of everyone on your server. As long as people know that your
server has that feature it's not a problem in any sense. :)

Peter

On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Mark Lynch wrote:

> Thanks Peter,
> 
> Maybe I didn't make myself entirely clear. I know that the JUD is something
> seperate. I'm looking for a way to let people search for each other easily
> and then see if they are online before requesting to be added to their
> roster. Even something similar to the message receipts on mobiles would be
> handy, just so you know they've got it and don't twiddle your thumbs waiting
> for them when they're not even online. 
> 
> Guess I'll have to find another solution for now.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mark
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Saint-Andre [mailto:stpeter at jabber.org]
> Sent: 27 June 2001 18:34
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] Requesting presence of User not in Roster
> 
> 
> JUD != roster
> 
> JUD is a user database to which people can add themselves, and others can
> find them there -- it's a user directory that is entirely optional.
> 
> Your roster is *your* contact list. Personally I have some large number of
> people in my roster (perhaps 600, I haven't counted in a while). Indeed
> you can't get presence for people unless they allow you to do so, and that
> is the concept of subscription that's behind your roster.
> 
> If you are running your own server for your community, you could write a
> server-side module that pulls out the presence of everyone on your server
> but that's something you might not want to get into. :)
> 
> Peter
> 
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Mark Lynch wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Is there anyway of requesting the presence of a user that is not in your
> > roster? I'm trying to get some community stuff going using Jabber and
> would
> > prefer to keep using my own DB rather than a JUD. The way I see it I would
> > have to maintain a huge roster of all my users to be able to query all
> their
> > presence's, which isn't something I'd like to do. 
> > 
> > Am I missing something? 
> > 
> > If it's not possible does anyone else see it as something useful to be
> able
> > to do?
> > 
> > All help appreciated!
> > Mark
> > 
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