[JDEV] UDP vs TCP

[Thomas Charron]

Quoting "ltherond at elitehill.com -- pop account" <ltherond at EliteHill.com>:
> I disagree. TCP makes poor use of today's networks.
> How many times do you think a message should get onto the wire?
> n times through n TCP connections, or once via a broadcast/multicast?

  In our case, not many times.  We cannot broadcast via Multicast over what 
basically ammounts to a massive WAN.  While I agree with many points you make 
regarding UDP, Multicast isn't one of them..  ;-P

> I agree on that, but TCP doesn't make things easier.
> Shouldn't we find a way to abstract the transport layer? Using a plug-in
> architecture?

  There already is.  Just as mod_http servers as a 'front end' and serves as 
an 'in memory connection', a mod_udp module could replace the TCP 
connections..  The core server still *supports* TCP, which it should, but 
adding UDP support is very possible using the modular architecture.  Refer to 
the source, luke.. ;-P

> > Then we can move on to optimization. As temas pointed out,
> > Jabber is just a protocol. If you want to run it over UDP, give it a
> > shot. Hell, if you want to run it over Appletalk, give it a shot :).
> Hey, look at this! The same thought...

  No one said jabber shouldn't have UDP support.  The argument has been over 
*WHY* use UDP.  I'm CERTAIN that UDP support wouldn't be procluded from the 
distrobution if someone wrote it.  The developers speaking against UDP don't 
happen to *AGREE*, but that ceratinly doesn't mean it can't/won't be done.  It 
simply means thehy do not see the value, and aren;t interested in it.  Many 
people working on Apache certainly aren;t interested in mod_perl, yet there it 
is..  ;-P

> > This is an open-source software project. Instead of blabbing on a
> > listserv, that we're stupid and wouldn't know how to make a "hello
> > world" program without your hand-holding, give us some code!
> Ooooooooooo! That was a little mean! :-)
> Problems have solutions...if you can remain open to them.

  We're all on the same page here.  If not, hopefully we are now..  Every 
technology will have pro's and con's, and developers for and against.  This 
DOESN'T MEAN it won't/can't happen.  It simply means that perhaps that 
developer isn;t interested in working on it at the moment.

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Thomas Charron
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