[JDEV] Capabilities Discussion

[DJ Adams]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 02:22:17PM -0700, Dave Smith wrote:
> So, to summarize the discussion..
[...]
> Additional pros/cons of both would be welcome.
> 

Well, I guess you could add the filtering requirement on the server to
the cons ;-)

> As noted by some other people (Dave Waite, in particular) there is the general

David Waite also mentioned something that made me think, but from a 
different angle: 

- capabilities/presence sending when the client loads a module e.g. 
whiteboard.

Considering this from the opposite angle - what if I have a modular client
and I load a whiteboard. Up to this point, I've not sent a filter iq-set, 
(taking your good suggestion) meaning I haven't wanted (and haven't received
because of the default DENY) any detailed capabilities info.

But now I want to know, however a pushed-presence is not going to be
forthcoming (unless my intended correspondent changes presence (too)).

So perhaps we need both presence-based and queryable capability info?
Query to be answered by the server? 

Just thinking out loud a bit. I had actually gone to bed, but had to 
write this down first before I forgot <grin>. 

Please kick me if my thoughts are based on shaky ground - I'm still
a newbie here :-)

> One thing I must comment on is how proud I am to be apart of the Jabber 
> community. It's great to take part in a discussion where even tho people 
> disagree on a methodolgy, they still are able to carry on an intelligent 
> conversation. It's a happy, happy thing. :)

Seconded. 

Another thing - it's a long while since I've been so intrigued by
such a wonderful technology. It really is food for thought (even if
some of my thoughts are duffo ;-) Thanks Jabber-folks!

dj