[JDEV] Why XML for everything?

Josh Mitts josh at fired-up.com
Thu Sep 30 06:15:38 CDT 1999


That's a great idea, I'll suggest it to Jer! :)

Josh

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>From: John Price <linux-guru at gcfl.net>
>To: Patrick McCuller <patrick at kia.net>
>Subject: RE: [JDEV] Why XML for everything?
>Date: Thu, Sep 30, 1999, 12:55 AM
>

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> Oh come on...  the best thing for a development group is to rethink their
> approach and make sure they know why they are doing what they are doing...
>
> Actually, I never expected to convince anyone here not to use XML... I
> just wanted to know WHY are using it!
>
> Anyway, I see why for the most part.  Maybe you guys can take most of
> these arguments for XML and add them to the FAQ so others like me can get
> the idea without having to tie up your mailing list...
>
> For those of you that did take the time to express your view, I appreciate
> it.
>
> Later,
> John
>
>
> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Patrick McCuller wrote:
>
>> [...]
>>
>> > So, for example, instead of a message like one of your example
>> > messages:
>> >
>> > <message>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> > </message>
>> >
>> > You might have the following:
>> >
>> > [packet type byte]
>> > [1-2 other fixed bytes]
>> > [4 bytes-from ID]
>> > [4 bytes-to ID]
>> > [data length byte]
>> > Subject: Here's a subject of you want one.
>> > Who needs threads?  I just want to send my buddy at message! :-)
>> > Here you can have all kinds of XML (or HTML) attributes, fonts, etc...
>> > asdgf asdfkjasgoijqwert asdgaldgjkas
>> > <NULL>
>> >
>>
>>  I suggest you give it up. You will never convince the Jabber team to change
>> the Jabber protocol away from XML, and whatever valid points you may make
>> won't make anyone happier. Jabber is defined as an XML-based instant
>> messaging protocol, and good or bad, however strong your arguments, they
>> will not affect the fundamental nature of Jabber.
>>
>>  Try putting your thoughts on the IMPP list; there's lots of that there. Try
>> developing a competing instant messaging system. How about an alternative
>> Jabber transport? I encourage you to do whatever you like to further your
>> approach to this technology, but you are wasting your time with this on the
>> jdev list.
>>
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
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