[JDEV] Feature negotation/File transfers..
Seth Hartbecke
gandalf at netins.net
Mon Aug 9 14:44:50 CDT 1999
Please remember that whatever we use for CTCP/MIME/(name or favorite
feature) needs to be easily done/undone by the transports.
The major selling point of jabber is NOT that it uses XML/MIME/CTCP or
CTSP. You average user is not going to care (programmers trying to write a
client will).
What they will like about jabber is how they can talk with anybody on
ICQ/AIM/IRC/Yahoo/(Name your 2nd favorite IM here) without having to
run multiple clients. This is the market I think we should be
targeting. I am just concerned that the stuff we are talking about will
not "transport" invisialy to these other environments.
On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Patrick McCuller wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jdev-admin at jabber.org [mailto:jdev-admin at jabber.org]On Behalf Of
> > Thomas D. Charron
> >
> > To start, this is a REALLY good post.. Albeit a bit long..
> >
> Please forgive me. The more frustrated I get, the more I write... :)
>
>
> > >Client A: Hi, I want to send you a binary file.
> > >Client B: OK, how about HTTP?
> > >Client A: Alright. Pick up the file at
> > >http://102.102.102.102.102.102.102:45000/file_6_6_4.tgz
> >
> > Almost EXACTLY the example used several months ago..
> >
> That was my intention (I didn't check the originals, though, perhaps I
> should have). I hope no one's gotten the impression that I'm touting this as
> my idea or anything. It isn't. It does feel right.
>
>
> > >Client A: I want to send you a JPG image.
> > >Client B: Don't. I am a toaster.
> >
> > *ROTFL*
>
> I know it isn't cool to laugh at your own jokes, but this one got me too.
> :>
>
> >
> > Yet another feature negotiation example.. Same would be:
> >
> > Client A: I want to send you a file. I prefer MIME encoding via
> > Jabber stream.
> > Client B: Unsupported in this client. I prefer HTTP download..
> > Client A: Unsupported in this client. My secondary preference is
> > UUENCODE Jabber stream.
> > Client B: Can do, here comes, conversation ID: 17826482
> >
> > This case would assume it was a file transfer, and not some
> > stream or anything..
>
> This is a great example.
>
> Naturally, clients should avoid sending large things through the jabber
> network - for lots of reasons. Possibly one of the most important being that
> servers are likely to put an upper limit on the length of messages they will
> accept. :)
>
>
> Patrick
>
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> > Thomas Charron
> >
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